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Sullivan County, NY was created in 1809 from Ulster County, NY (original county from 1683).NOTE:
Highland is a town in Sullivan County, New York, United States. The population was 2,196 at the 2020 census. The town's name denotes its location on elevated ground north of the Delaware River. The town is in the southwestern part of the county.
The town was formed from the Town of Lumberland in 1853. Barryville is named for William T. Barry, postmaster general under President Andrew Jackson. The community grew up around the Delaware and Hudson Canal, which opened in 1828 and operated until 1898. The canal ran through what is today the center of the hamlet, and the canal company operated a number of stores, an office and a dry dock there.
The Delaware River also served as the conduit for timber cut in the area and rafted to Philadelphia for use in the ship building industry. Men made fortunes in the timber business, and when the industry died in the middle of the 19th century, many river communities died with it. In fact, writing in 1899, John Willard Johnston, lawyer, historian, and the town of Highland's first supervisor, predicted a dire future for Barryville.
"Barryville is a small, poor village now," he wrote, "but at one time supported an active business. The lumber of the region being exhausted, the business of canaling declining and now abandoned, it has for the last 25 years been waning, until now it seems to have reached a bottom of hardpan. Human imagination can hardly reach anything in the future likely to improve it; but it will probably remain indefinitely the small poor place it now is."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland,_Sullivan_County,_New_YorkNOTE:
Barryville is a hamlet (and census-designated place)[1] in Highland, Sullivan County, New York, United States. Previously known as "The River," the hamlet was renamed for William T. Barry, postmaster general under President Andrew Jackson.
History
Barryville is a hamlet in the Town of Highland. The town was created by an act of the County Board of Supervisors on December 17, 1853. The Town of Lumberland was subdivided into the present day Towns of Lumberland, Highland and Tusten because the traveling distance for town meetings was too great. The town takes its name from highland ridges above the Delaware River. It was first inhabited by the Lenape and the trappers of Minisink and Mamakating. Colonial period hunters, trappers and lumbermen were drawn to Highland because of its streams and lakes, dense hardwood and conifer forests and wild game.
On July 22, 1779, the Upper Delaware's only major Revolutionary War battle was fought on the plateau above Minisink Ford. The battle was fought between the colonial militia of Goshen who suffered a devastating defeat against a group of Indians and Tories commanded by Mohawk Chieftain Joseph Brant. Highland was settled sometime after the War towards the turn of the century. The former hamlet of Lumberland Post Office, now Eldred, was established by 1814.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barryville,_New_YorkCHILDREN:
From Kathryn Dahl via email 10 Aug 2023 regarding her research, notes and children in this family.SEX NAMES OF CHILDREN DATE BORN PLACE OF BIRTHDATE DIED I MARRIAGE NOTES
M - F LIST IN ORDER OF BIRTH DAY MONTH YEAR TOWN COUNTY STATE DAY MONTH YEAR DATECarpenter Children 1-4 baptized on 22 Sept. 1822 image 533/page 13.
F 1. Frances 'Fanna' I 4 June 1816 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York 123 April 1898 William R Vail I Warwick Cemetery Orange Co. NY
Lived in Warwick, Orange Co. NY. Obit has 1819 as birth year, same month and day as baptism- June 4.M 2. John B I 29 Dec 1818 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York I After June 1865 'Catherine Reed
May have had a previous wife Sebel and child Sarah Elizabeth Carpenter.F 3. Susanna 'Susan' I 8 Dec 1820 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York I 23 Feb 1894 I Samuel Miller 'Bethel Sullivan Co NY
1870 Bethel, Sullivan, family lives next to Charles Phillips, Elenor's 2nd husband T L Phillips's brother. Charles wed to Sarah E Carp. (poss John B Dau)F 4. Phebe I 30 March 1822 Barryville, Sullivan Co New York I 10 Jun 1885 I Robert Embly I Scott Cemetery- Mendon Michigan
Moved to St Joseph Mendon Michigan before 1860.F 5. Mary I 1835 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York 'maybe 1864 David E White 'Unknown grave
Son: James Henry Cox with first husband James, widowed at 19, remarries David E White has another son David C ". I believe she dies in 1864- David E remarries in 65. Son James lives with his Aunt Phebe (Carpenter) Embly in Mendon Mich. 1870. Mary still living March 1862M 6. Isaiah H I 1831 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York 29 April 1898 Sarah J Austin' deed from siblings. John B Montoza Cemetery Barryville NY
Isaiah lives with parents John and Anna. Gains property from death of father in early 1860s Frances, Susan, Mary, Eleanor and Phebe. 7 total living siblings 1861.F 7. Elenor Elizabeth "Ella- I 1833 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York I 3 Sep 1870 I I Mendon Township Cemetery
Widowed 21 in 1855 Highland, children Calvin & Georgia Lawrence, unknown father. Deed states Eleanor wife of Daniel B Reed in 1863. by '70 Ella E remarried Thomas L Phillips. 1870 Census shows Calvin/Georgina Lawrence & Warren Reed - I believe this is Daniel Reed's son. Not living w/Thos in 1880.
Ella has a son with Thos L.- Hiriam Wakeman, his marriage cert states mother Ellen E Carpenter. Interestingly Thomas' first wife Julia Carpenter, Ella's cousin.
Documents:
Frances: 1850, 1855, 1860,1865,1870,1880 grave & obit
John B:1850,1855,1860,1865
Susan: 1850, 1855,1860,1870,1875,1880 Civil War Pension
Phebe: 1850,1860,1870,1880 grave
Isaiah: 1850(Josiah)1855,1860,1865,1870,1875,1880 grave
Elizabeth: 1850,1855,1870 son Hiram Wakeman Phillips wed cert says mother's maiden name Carpenter.MARRIAGE: abt 1815 - need to find
CENSUS: 1820 US Census - see father's notes. Likely a listed son. But he had 2 children by this census - 1 male and 1 female
Name John Carpenter
Home in 1820 (City, County, State) Lumberland, Sullivan, New York
Enumeration Date August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10 1 <--- this is John b. 1818 grandson of the eldest John
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 1 <------ The son John the father of the youngest children listed
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over 1 <----------- b. bef 1775 - the father John
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10 2 <---- One of these is Fanna (Francis) b. 1816, granddaughter of the eldest John
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25 1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44 1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture 1
Free White Persons - Under 16 3
Free White Persons - Over 25 3
Total Free White Persons 7
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other 7
Source Citation
1820 U S Census; Census Place: Lumberland, Sullivan, New York; Page: 169; NARA Roll: M33_71; Image: 183
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1820 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Fourth Census of the United States, 1820. (NARA microfilm publication M33, 142 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.BAPTISM: First 4 children were baptised on the same date - 22 Sep 1822.
MICROFILM: # 007941755
Records of the First Congregational Church in the Town of Lumberland, New York.
Formerly known as the First Presbyterian Congregational Church of Narrow Falls and also as the
Narrows Falls and Middlebrook Church
Compiled by Gertrude A. Barber 1929
Baptisms
Digital image 533 of 575 - Document image 13
Fanna, b. June 4, 1816; bapt. Sept. 22, 1822, S. Sergeant, son of John and Anna. Carpenter. <--- Francis
John, b. Dec. 29, 1818; bapt. Sept. 22, 1822, son of above.
Susan, b. Deo. 8, 1820; bapt. Sept, 22, 1822, dau, of above.
Phebe, b. Mar. 30, 1824; bapt. Sept.22, 1822, dau, of above.
Catalog Record
Item Number
Film/Digital Note
Sullivan County, New York, church records Items 2-3 Vol. 1-2
Biographical review Item 1 Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1974. on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZ6-F3TZ-C
Found by Kathryn Dahl in Aug 2023.CENSUS: 1830 US Census
Name John Carpenter
Home in 1830 (City, County, State) Lumberland, Sullivan, New York
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14 1
Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49 1 <---- b. 1781 to 1790
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9 2
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14 1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39 1
Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49 1
Free White Persons - Under 20 5
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49 3
Total Free White Persons 8
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored) 8
Source Citation
Year: 1830; Census Place: Lumberland, Sullivan, New York; Series: M19; Roll: 110; Page: 21; Family History Library Film: 0017170
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1830 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Fifth Census of the United States, 1830. (NARA microfilm publication M19, 201 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.CENSUS: 1840 US Census
Name John Carpenter
Home in 1840 (City, County, State) Lumberland, Sullivan, New York
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14 1
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29 1
Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59 1 <---- b. 1781 to 1790
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5 1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9 1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19 1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29 1
Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49 1
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59 1
Persons Employed in Agriculture 1
Free White Persons - Under 20 5
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49 3
Total Free White Persons 10
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves 10
Source Citation
Year: 1840; Census Place: Lumberland, Sullivan, New York; Roll: 342; Page: 16; Family History Library Film: 0017207
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1840 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Sixth Census of the United States, 1840. (NARA microfilm publication M704, 580 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.CENSUS: 1850 US Census
Name John Carpenter
Gender Male
Race White
Age 66
Birth Year abt 1784
Birthplace New York
Home in 1850 Lumberland, Sullivan, New York, USA
Occupation Farmer
Industry Agriculture
Real Estate 300
Line Number 30
Dwelling Number 193
Family Number 193
Inferred Spouse
Anna Carpenter
Household Members (Name) Age
John Carpenter 66
Anna Carpenter 57
John B Carpenter 31
Josiah Carpenter 19
Catharine Carpenter 17 <--- Wife of John B.
Elizabeth Carpenter 17
Mary Carpenter 15
Source Citation
The National Archives in Washington D.C.; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census; Record Group Number: 29; Series Number: M432; Residence Date: 1850; Home in 1850: Lumberland, Sullivan, New York; Roll: 603; Page: 14a
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1850 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Seventh Census of the United States, 1850; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, 1009 rolls); Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29; National Archives, Washington, D.C.CENSUS: 1855 New York State Census
Name John Carpenter
Birth Year abt 1786
Age 69
Gender Male
Relation to Head Head
Residence Highland, Sullivan, New York, USA
Household Number 93
Line Number 32
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Carpenter 69 Head
Anna Carpenter 60 Wife
Isaiah Carpenter 24 Child
Mary Cox 19 Child
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, U.S., State Census, 1855 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Census of the state of New York, for 1855. Microfilm. Various County Clerk Offices, New York.CENSUS: 1860 US Census - wife is now a widow - assumed deceased
COMMENT:
HE IS NOT the John Carpenter born abt 1783 NY who was enumerated in Marion, Waushara, Wisconsin by 1860 with wife Susanna. They show up in 1865 in Delhi, Delaware, New York in the 1865 NY State Census.
That line was traced and their children does not match this line! JRCNOTE:
Cited as the father John Carpenter along with wife Anna in the obit of Frances Carpenter Vail, See her notes.
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Maybe ... Anna M. Travis - See W. R. Vail notes.CENSUS: 1860 US Census - with son Isaiah - now a widow
Name Anna Carpenter
Age 66
Birth Year abt 1794
Gender Female
Race White
Birth Place New York
Home in 1860 Highland, Sullivan, New York
Post Office Forestburgh
Dwelling Number 1624
Family Number 119
Household Members (Name) Age
Isaiah Carpenter 29
Anna Carpenter 66
James Cox 4
Source Citation
The National Archives in Washington D.C.; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census; Record Group Number: 29; Series Number: M653; Residence Date: 1860; Home in 1860: Highland, Sullivan, New York; Roll: M653_866; Page: 799; Family History Library Film: 803866
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
NOTES: Extracted data
See father's notes under CHILDREN: for the entire children chart from Kathryn Dahl.
F 3. Susanna 'Susan' I 8 Dec 1820 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York I 23 Feb 1894 I Samuel Miller 'Bethel Sullivan Co NY
1870 Bethel, Sullivan, family lives next to Charles Phillips, Elenor's 2nd husband T L Phillips's brother. Charles wed to Sarah E Carp. (poss John B Dau)MICROFILM: # 007941755
Records of the First Congregational Church in the Town of Lumberland, New York.
Fomerly known as the First Presbyterian Congregational Church of Narrow Falls and also as the
Narrows Falls and Middlebrook Church
Compiled by Gertrude A. Barber 1929
Baptisms
Digital image 533 of 575 - Document image 13
Parents John and Anna Carpenter
Susan, b. Deo. 8, 1820; bapt. Sept, 22, 1822, dau, of above.
Catalog Record
Item Number
Film/Digital Note
Sullivan County, New York, church records Items 2-3 Vol. 1-2
Biographical review Item 1 Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1974. on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZ6-F3TZ-C
NOTES: Extracted data
See father's notes under CHILDREN: for the entire children chart from Kathryn Dahl.
F 4. Phebe I 30 March 1822 Barryville, Sullivan Co New York I 10 Jun 1885 I Robert Embly I Scott Cemetery- Mendon Michigan
Moved to St Joseph Mendon Michigan before 1860.MICROFILM: # 007941755
Records of the First Congregational Church in the Town of Lumberland, New York.
Fomerly known as the First Presbyterian Congregational Church of Narrow Falls and also as the
Narrows Falls and Middlebrook Church
Compiled by Gertrude A. Barber 1929
Baptisms
Digital image 533 of 575 - Document image 13
Parents John and Anna Carpenter
Phebe, b. Mar. 30, 1824; bapt. Sept.22, 1822, dau, of above.
Catalog Record
Item Number
Film/Digital Note
Sullivan County, New York, church records Items 2-3 Vol. 1-2
Biographical review Item 1 Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1974. on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZ6-F3TZ-C
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He served in the Civil War.
14. Elenor Elizabeth "Elizabeth" "Ella" Carpenter
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NOTES: Extracted data
See father's notes under CHILDREN: for the entire children chart from Kathryn Dahl.
F 7. Elenor Elizabeth "Ella- I 1833 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York I 3 Sep 1870 I I Mendon Township Cemetery
Widowed 21 in 1855 Highland, children Calvin & Georgia Lawrence, unknown father. Deed states Eleanor wife of Daniel B Reed in 1863. by '70 Ella E remarried Thomas L Phillips. 1870 Census shows Calvin/Georgina Lawrence & Warren Reed - I believe this is Daniel Reed's son. Not living w/Thos in 1880.
Ella has a son with Thos L.- Hiriam Wakeman, his marriage cert states mother Ellen E Carpenter. Interestingly Thomas' first wife Julia Carpenter, Ella's cousin.
UPDATE:
I was able to locate "Ella" living in 1860 with Daniel Reed in Pike County and her other children. Warren is not yet born.
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NOTE:
She married a Cox.NOTE: Per Kathryn Dahl
Mary Carpenter-246540 is Mary Cox in the 1855 census age 19 and labeled: Widowed. Has son James Cox, living with Anna and Isaiah 1860. Mary remarried David E White has another son David C White. I think Mary dies in 1864 and David E White remarries 1865 to Permelina Kinney and moves to St Joseph Michigan. This is where his step son James Cox moves and where Robert and Phebe Embly already live.NOTES: Extracted data
See father's notes under CHILDREN: for the entire children chart from Kathryn Dahl.
F 5. Mary I 1835 I Barryville, Sullivan Co New York 'maybe 1864 David E White 'Unknown grave
Son: James Henry Cox with first husband James, widowed at 19, remarries David E White has another son David C ". I believe she dies in 1864- David E remarries in 65. Son James lives with his Aunt Phebe (Carpenter) Embly in Mendon Mich. 1870. Mary still living March 1862
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NOTE:
Sullivan County, NY was created in 1809 from Ulster County, NY (original county from 1683).
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Sullivan County, NY was created in 1809 from Ulster County, NY (original county from 1683).ADULT CHRISTENING: 15 Nov 1818 - need citation
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Sullivan County, NY was created in 1809 from Ulster County, NY (original county from 1683).QUESTION:
Is she conflated with the other John Carpenter who went to MI?
Where is proof that she moved to Michigan?
Macomb County, MI was created in 1818 from Wayne County, MI.
Michigan was made a territory in 1805 and made a state in 1837.
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NOTE:
Sullivan County, NY was created in 1809 from Ulster County, NY (original county from 1683).QUESTION:
Is she conflated with the other John Carpenter who went to MI?
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